Open thread: Iconic Phrases

(By chris the cynic)

This must be Thursday I never could get the hang of Thursday.

[As a reminder, open thread prompts are meant to inspire conversation, not stifle it. Have no fear of going off topic for there is no off topic here.]

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14 thoughts on “Open thread: Iconic Phrases

  1. christhecynic April 10, 2014 at 2:02 pm

    I have come here to chew bubblegum and kick ass…and I’m all out of bubblegum.
    -They Live (1988)

    I was thinking of the immortal words of Socrates, who said, “… I drank what?”
    -Real Genius (1985)

  2. lonespark42 April 10, 2014 at 7:01 pm

    “You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.” – Princess Bride

  3. storiteller April 10, 2014 at 9:04 pm

    “Dude, at least it’s an ethos.” – Walter, The Big Lebowski. I just quoted this to someone today.

  4. froborr April 11, 2014 at 1:10 pm

    “It’s a moral imperative.” -Real Genius

    “We’re on a mission from God.” -Blues Brothers

  5. froborr April 11, 2014 at 1:25 pm

    Off-topic: I generally don’t want kids, but might be willing to adopt if I’m in a relationship with someone who very much wants kids. (I am absolutely opposed to passing on my genes, that would be cruel.) There’s a woman I’m quite interested in, but she has kids.

    Given that society sort of assumes that everyone wants kids, do I have an obligation to make clear to her my feelings on the topic up front, or can I wait until/unless she asks about it? If I do have an obligation, when–before/while I ask her out, first date, third date?

  6. Firedrake April 11, 2014 at 3:20 pm

    My simplistic approach is: you should raise it before either of you makes what that person regards as a serious commitment. It’s certainly not something to flag right at the beginning, because (unlike already having kids) it doesn’t get in the way of having pleasant times in company, and to raise it early would presume a level of long-term planning that might not yet be in evidence.

    I don’t know whether you are the marrying type or the moving in together first type, but I’d say that if either of those subjects is coming up it’s definitely a good time to raise it.

    But that’s me. I am not you, this advice is worth what you paid for it, etc.

  7. Silver Adept April 11, 2014 at 10:01 pm

    “Shop smart. Shop S-Mart.” – the Evil Dead series.

  8. Lonespark April 12, 2014 at 2:08 pm

    I guess I don’t totally understand. You’re against having biological kids, and not particularly interested in adoption… but she already has kids, so…what? Does that mean you’re not interested in a serious relationship with her, or at least hesitant about it? Or are her kids not as much of an issue?

    Mostly I think Firedrake is right, but IDK. When people are grownups whose decisions may depend on ticking biological clocks or earnings, or…things… I think it’s good to get into these practical/logistical things reasonably early on if things become serious. I would think after you go through more immediately relevant stuff like mental and/or physical health issues, but I don’t know when to best discuss those, either. This is why I like getting to know people first on the internet. Although they can still suprise you, ofc…

  9. Lonespark April 12, 2014 at 2:43 pm

    “…but for me, it was Tuesday.” – Street Fighter, but I’ve never seen it. Still heard the line…

  10. froborr April 12, 2014 at 3:41 pm

    Well, becoming a step-parent is basically the same as adopting from my perspective, so if things got serious my ambivalence could be an issue. (I have met people for whom anything less than enthusiastic certainty is too much of a risk, and I can respect the reasoning begin that.) And if there’s no chance of seriousness, I’d rather just be friends, because the early stages of dating are a horrible morass of anxiety and uncertainty.

    So I want to get it out of the way as early as possible, but I also recognize that bringing it up could come across as presumptive and creepy.

  11. Brin April 13, 2014 at 8:31 am

    I just got an email from Nabble threatening to delete our forum due to inactivity. Do we actually care, and if so, who’s going to fix it? (It told me to go to the forum page and “follow the instructions”, but there were no instructions. I’m guessing this is due to my lack of administrative access. Someone who does have administrative access would have to look into it and see if they can find the instructions.)

  12. Lonespark April 13, 2014 at 11:22 am

    I would agree that it is close to the same thing as adopting… but if the other parent is alive/involved, it’s not quite the same…

    IDK…can you somehow avoid things that seems anxious and date-like. Hell, just BE friends until it really seems worth changing the equation…

  13. christhecynic April 13, 2014 at 4:02 pm

    @Brin

    I told it not to delete the forum. If I did that before you went there it could explain the lack of instructions when you went to the page.

    As to whether we actually care, probably not but I was thinking of putting up a post asking that question on Monday.

  14. Firedrake April 14, 2014 at 3:00 am

    I’ve just read Fred’s latest piece (“12 reasons I still call myself an ‘evangelical’”), and I confess I’m unconvinced. (I should note, this is nothing to do with his faith, which is none of my business. This is about the social aspect.) I don’t think that he can exert any useful degree of drag on the mainstream evangelical community, because they’re happy to ignore him when he says something inconvenient. At the same time, the point which he doesn’t raise is that he’s effectively lending his name to all the excesses of the evangelical movement because — even as he denounces them — he still remains one of them. “No, we’re not all woman-hating loonies”, they can say, “look at Fred”. And then maybe someone gets sucked in, or the movement as a whole doesn’t get labelled as the patriarchal holdover that it now is.

    Just as I have difficulty seeing how anyone with conscience can remain a Roman Catholic after the revelations of the last few years, I don’t believe Fred’s continued nominal adherence to the evangelical movement does him or anyone else any good.

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