Deconstruction Roundup for August 16th, 2019

(by the Slacktiverse and others; collected by Silver Adept, had yet to figure out where the story is going, but knows full well it’s not done.)

The point of these posts is threefold:

  1. To let people stay up to date on ongoing deconstructions. (All ones on our list, including finished and stalled ones, here.)
  2. To let people who can’t comment elsewhere have a place to comment.
  3. To let people comment in a place where people who can’t read Disqus can see what they have to say.

Elizabeth Sandifer: Eruditorium Press

Fred Clark: Slacktivist

Ross: A Mind Occasionally Voyaging

Silver Adept: Here on The Slacktiverse

Let us know, please, if there are errors in the post. Or if you don’t want to be included. Or if there’s someone who you think should be included, which includes you. We can use more content. Or if you are more than ready to declare that a candidate running on nostalgia for an imagined past should be ejected from the race. Or for any other reason, really.

8 thoughts on “Deconstruction Roundup for August 16th, 2019

  1. Steve Morrison August 19, 2019 at 2:24 pm

    Piers Anthony wants feedback—about whether or not Xanth is sexist. No, I’m not kidding! In his newsletter for June, he wrote the following:

    In Apull I reread the first Xanth novel, A Spell for Chameleon, and found it worthy. Now I am wondering: from time to time it and Xanth has been accused of sexism. Paramount even rejected it for a movie, after seemingly committing to that movie, because the new boss called it sexist. So the charge has consequences. I did not see sexism when I wrote it or when I reread it over forty years later. Xanth does parody sexism, as it does other things including the attitudes of men toward women, freaking out at the sight of panties. For example princess, later queen Irene had no truck with sexism and good legs. Maybe some readers just don’t recognize parody when they encounter it. So now I would like to pin down this charge. Is there anybody out there who read that novel and found it sexist? Please email me and tell me why. At one point I believe someone said that Chameleon herself was sexist because she varied with the cycles of the moon. But if that is true, all natural women are sexist, no? So please let me know, and I will discuss it in a future column.

    And in his August newsletter, he writes:

    Remember the Xanth sexist question I had two months ago? So far five readers have addressed it, and the count is 5-0, no sexism. But they were male responders; a female is working on it now, and we’ll see.

    So if you’ve ever wanted to tell him what you think on the topic, now is your chance. He gives his email address as:

  2. alexeigynaix August 19, 2019 at 5:56 pm

    apparently I don’t get to check this because connection stuff (because Down For Everyone Or Just Me says is up), but doesn’t Ana Mardoll have a whole tagful of posts about exactly this?

    and I imagine I’d want to make sure Ana’s cool with this first (…which presupposes a certain amount of being able to load the site), but if I am indeed correctly recalling, then I am tempted to just paste the correct tag URL into an email to Mr. Anthony and call it good

  3. alexeigynaix August 19, 2019 at 5:56 pm

    though frankly Mr. Anthony saying “a female is working on it” is Sufficient Evidence

  4. Silver Adept August 20, 2019 at 11:36 am

    There is an entire set of posts on the topic, yes, at Ana’s deconstruction category for Xanth, but I would definitely check before sending that link to see if it’s okay. Troll influxes are no fun to deal with, and something that looks like it would invite them should be checked to see if the moderation team actually wants to deal with it.

  5. Silver Adept August 20, 2019 at 11:51 am

    And if I scroll back far enough, we find out that Piers Anthony responded to the series of posts in a newsletter by calling Ana a harridan feminist and claiming she was tone deaf to the parody aspects of Xanth, which is a convenient drudge for any accusation leveled.

    Also, I’m pretty sure I’m going to yell about sample bias by asking the pale who are subscribed to (or read) your newsletter to comment. “Hey, fans of mine, am I terrible? Let me know!”

    I agree that the joke of “its only dudes who have responded, but I have a token woman working on it” isn’t really a joke. I’m pretty sure that of he wanted to use his Internet access, he could find all sorts of posts discussing the sexism in Xanth and read those instead.

    (It would be the terrible skeletons of my closet to revisit the series of my internet namesake, but it’s certainly a thing I could do, once done with the dragons.)

  6. genesistrine August 20, 2019 at 12:02 pm

    claiming she was tone deaf to the parody aspects of Xanth

    Yeah, it’s purestrain “women have no sense of humour amirite guys hur hur”.

  7. alexeigynaix August 20, 2019 at 2:43 pm

    which is to say, no point asking Ana, because the jackass in question has already heard and dismissed enough of what Ana has to say that there’s no reason to believe he will listen this time either

  8. Silver Adept August 21, 2019 at 12:06 pm

    Regrettably so. Parody is a very big place to hide your bad behavior in, but most of the time, you have to be so far out beyond reality that a person would recognize the parody aspects and really, Xanth never was that far enough past the line for anyone to notice it was a parody of something else.

    Puns do not a parody make, and based on Piers Anthony’s other corpus of work, Xanth is in the pocket, not out on a limb.

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